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I guess the 2nd Amendment right to keep and bare arms has almost been
flushed down the toilet in the Peoples Republic of California.
he only worse thing that could happen is guns could be banned totally.
And I wouldn't be surprised if the government tyrants in Sacramento did that too.
California bans gun toting in public Oct. 10, 2011 07:49 AM Associated Press SACRAMENTO, Calif. - Gov. Jerry Brown's says he has signed a measure that bans the open carrying of handguns in California. The law, AB144, makes it a misdemeanor to carry an exposed and unloaded gun in a public place. The governor's office made the announcement in a statement early Monday morning. Brown has been rushing to sign dozens of measures sent to him by lawmakers. Top California law enforcement officials supported the legislation. The Los Angeles Times reports that Brown said he had "listened to the police chiefs." [ Which means California is a Police State! ] Supporters say the only person who knows whether the gun is loaded is the person carrying the gun. Opponents say the bill is one of many assaults on the public's Second Amendment rights.
Calif. bans carrying handguns openly Published: Oct. 10, 2011 at 9:46 AM SACRAMENTO, Oct. 10 (UPI) -- Openly carrying handguns in public is banned in California under provisions of a bill signed into law by Gov. Jerry Brown. Brown said he "listened to the California police chiefs" and approved the ban [ Which means Governor Jerry Brown is a big supporter of the Police State ] , the Los Angeles Times reported Monday. Police chiefs said they were concerned that openly carrying handguns would waste officers' time by forcing them to respond to calls about armed suspects and could lead to potentially violent confrontations. "This finally puts an end to the dangerous and intimidating practice of carrying openly displayed guns in public," Brian Malte, director of state legislation for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, told the Times. "California families will now be able to take their families to the park or out to eat without the worry of getting shot by some untrained, unscreened, self-appointed vigilante." [ Now there only risk is being shot by a trigger happy cop. And of course since criminals don't obey these laws they still have the same risk of "of getting shot by some untrained, unscreened, self-appointed vigilante." ] Under the law, effective Jan. 1, violations will be a misdemeanor punishable by up to a year in jail and a possible fine of $1,000. Gun owners may still apply to their local law enforcement agency for a permit to carry a concealed firearm. Opponents, including OpenCarry.org co-founder Mike Stollenwerk, said the law is an attempt to undermine the Second Amendment right to bear arms, the Times said. "California already has the most convoluted and confusing gun laws in the country," Stollenwerk said, predicting that the ban "will result in mass confusion by police and the public as to what the law is, and prosecution of well-meaning people."
Gov. Brown caps a month of bill signings, vetoes Patrick McGreevy and Anthony York Los Angeles Times Staff Writers October 10, 2011, 2:46 a.m. Reporting from Sacramento— Gov. Jerry Brown announced early Monday that he had outlawed the open carrying of handguns in public in California, a controversial practice that top law enforcement officials had denounced as dangerous. Clearing his desk of final bills sent to him by the Legislature, Brown signed the ban into law after it was backed by Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck, Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca and other law enforcement officials throughout the state. "I listened to the California police chiefs," Brown said in a statement. [ Translation - Governor Jerry Brown supports the police state and wants to make it easier for the police to protect him from the serfs he rules over. ] Beck and other top cops were concerned that the open toting of guns wastes officers' time responding to calls about armed "suspects" and can lead accidentally to violent confrontation. Assemblyman Anthony Portantino (D-La Canada Flintridge), author of the ban, and his supporters said California is no longer the wild west, where citizens had to carry six-shooters on their hips for protection. "The bottom line is the streets will be safer for law enforcement and families," Portantino said. [ Well yes the streets will be safer for cops. But the streets will also be a lot more dangerous for civilians who can't protect themselves from criminals. ] The measure drew national attention. "This finally puts an end to the dangerous and intimidating practice of carrying openly displayed guns in public," said Brian Malte, director of state legislation for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "California families will now be able to take their families to the park or out to eat without the worry of getting shot by some untrained, unscreened, self-appointed vigilante." The law, AB 144, takes effect Jan. 1. Violations will be a misdemeanor, with offenders facing up to one year in jail and a potential fine of $1,000. Gun owners may still apply to their local law enforcement agency for a permit to carry a concealed firearm. The Democratic governor surprised some people in April by telling a law enforcement conference that he owns three guns and that it is natural for people to have firearms in their homes. In a presidential debate in 1992, Brown had argued in favor of a moratorium on gun sales. Opponents of the Portantino bill, including Mike Stollenwerk, co-founder of the group OpenCarry.org, say the new law is an attempt to undermine the Second Amendment right to bear arms. "California already has the most convoluted and confusing gun laws in the country," Stollenwerk said Sunday night, predicting that the ban "will result in mass confusion by police and the public as to what the law is, and prosecution of well-meaning people." SNIP Patrick.McGreevy@latimes.com Anthony.York@latimes.com
http://www.kyma.com/slp.php?idN=5640&cat=News No more open guns in California SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- Gov. Jerry Brown's says he has signed a measure that bans the open carrying of handguns in California. The law, AB144, makes it a misdemeanor to carry an exposed and unloaded gun in a public place. The governor's office made the announcement in a statement early Monday morning. Brown has been rushing to sign dozens of measures sent to him by lawmakers. Top California law enforcement officials supported the legislation. The Los Angeles Times reports that Brown said he had "listened to the police chiefs." Supporters say the only person who knows whether the gun is loaded is the person carrying the gun. Opponents say the bill is one of many assaults on the public's Second Amendment rights.
Gov. Brown signs ban on open handgun carrying By Sheila Kumar, Associated Press Posted: 10/10/2011 07:08:05 AM PDT SACRAMENTO -- California became the fifth state to prohibit openly carrying handguns in public after Gov. Jerry Brown announced Monday that he had signed the ban into law amid heavy opposition from gun enthusiasts. AB144 by state Assemblyman Anthony Portantino, D-Pasadena, makes it a misdemeanor to carry an exposed and unloaded gun in public or in vehicles, with violators facing up to a year in prison or a potential fine of $1,000 when the law takes effect on Jan 1. The bill exempts hunting and shooting events and does not apply to those who are given permits to carry a concealed weapon by law enforcement authorities. [ So you pretty much have to get "permission" from a cop before you can carry a gun to protect yourself? ] Portantino said the bill is an opportunity to prevent tragedy before it happens. "It's not if somebody is going be shot, it's when somebody is going to be shot," he said. "We have the opportunity to avoid that, and that's why this is so critical." He said law enforcement officials have been concerned about the proliferation of guns in public and the tense situations that arise when someone sees another person carrying a firearm in public. He said the encounters can escalate quickly because others don't know whether the gun is loaded or unloaded. One of the first rules of firearms safety is to always assume a weapon is loaded. "Main Street California is not the Old West, and you don't need a gun to buy a cheeseburger," Portantino said. Top California law enforcement groups, including the California Police Chiefs Association and the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department, supported the legislation. "By prohibiting the open carry of guns, we can now take our families to the park or out to eat without the worry of getting shot by some untrained, unscreened, self-appointed vigilante," Dallas Stout, president of the California chapters of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said in a statement. [ Do you really think criminals are going to obey the law? Like somebody who is planning a mass murder is going to say, "Gee maybe I shouldn't kill these 16 people I was planning on murdering because carrying a gun is illegal? ] Gun owners protested the legislation in April when they began carrying unloaded handguns in public places and restaurants as a political statement in Pasadena. The Brady Campaign, which sponsored the legislation, said California joins Florida, Illinois, Oklahoma and Texas as the only states to ban the open carry of handguns. It said 33 states, including Pennsylvania, Michigan, Louisiana and Colorado, do no prohibit open carry. Twelve states, including South Carolina, Tennessee, Minnesota and Massachusetts require permits for open carry. David Maggard Jr., president of the California Police Chiefs Association, said the group viewed the open carry of unloaded handguns as a safety threat to communities and their officers. He said the bill will help assure that felons and gang members cannot openly carry an unloaded gun with impunity. [ I am sure that Police Chief David Maggard Jr. already knows it's illegal for felons to carry guns. But that won't stop him from pretending this law will make people safer. And Police Chief David Maggard Jr. also knows that gang bangers and other criminals will refuse to obey this law like they refuse to obey all other laws. ] The organization represents the state's 336 municipal police chiefs. Gun advocates and most Republican lawmakers have criticized the law, saying it targets law-abiding citizens. [ Duh! Of course it does! The only people that will obey this silly law, are law abiding citizens. Criminals by definition don't obey laws. ] State Assemblyman Tim Donnelly, R-Hesperia, said Brown sent the message that he has no respect for the Constitution. "There are risks to living in a free state, and for the governor to take away and chisel away at the Second Amendment right when he claimed to respect it, it just kind of shows his true colors," Donnelly said. "It's really a form of tyranny," he said of the ban. Sam Paredes, executive director of Gun Owners of California, said sheriff's departments in most major cities in California, including Los Angeles, San Francisco and San Diego, make it difficult for citizens to get concealed carry permits. The association, which has 33,000 members in California, is a pro-gun lobbying association based north of the state capitol. "For a majority of Californians, this creates an absolute ban on the bear part of the right to keep and bear arms because they can't get a conceal carry permit," he said. C.D. Michel, a civil rights attorney for the National Rifle Association, said the group has a lawsuit challenging the concealed carry licensing system in San Diego. He said the federal judge in the case ruled the system wasn't a violation of the Second Amendment because residents still had the option of unloaded open carry. "This strengthens our lawsuit because that option has been eliminated," he said. |