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F*ck that stuff about being innocent until proven guilty. The government seems to assume that this man is guilty of something until he proves he isn't a fugitive.

They usually make all kinds of threats on how they are going to jail me for the rest of my life if I don't tell them my name.

Then after an hour or two they usually release me and more or less tell me I am a jerk for thinking I have "Constitutional rights".

71 year old man in Utah who refuses to tell the police his name

If you see this man, please shake his hand, thank him and and buy him a beer for his refusal to tell the police his name.

If everybody took the Fifth Amendment and refused to tell the police anything the world would be a lot safer from police tyranny.

PROVO, Utah (Reuters) - A mystery man arrested on minor charges more than three weeks ago remains behind bars in Utah while law enforcement officials try to determine his true identity, which he refuses to reveal.

"This is really a strange case," said Lt. Dennis Harris with the Utah County Sheriff's Office. "He just doesn't want to be found."

The unidentified man, who has graying hair, a light beard and is believed to be in his 60's, was arrested on July 1 for trespassing in a parking garage.

He was booked into jail on three misdemeanor charges and has thwarted any chance of release, with or without bail, by refusing to identify himself.

"I've been trying to think from A to Z why he would want to stay here ... why he wouldn't give us any information," Harris said.

"He either has to be wanted by some other state or he could be on some other registry or database that has not shown up," he added.

Law enforcement officials say the man is "fairly well spoken and educated," but very guarded about his identity.

As a result of several short conversations with him, officers believe he may not be from Utah.

Officials gave the man a telephone calling card so he might contact friends or relatives, but he has not used it.

"He was very aware of what we were trying to do and he would not give us the slightest bit of information indicating where he was from or anything relating to his family situation," said Harris.

"We've had a lot of people call in but nothing has panned out. Nothing," he added.

Officials say in three weeks of jail the mystery man has shown a pleasant demeanor and has communicated that he is being treated well.

"I realize that sometimes people want to go to jail because they are homeless, have nothing, they are destitute. I've seen that over the years. I just don't get the impression that's the reason. He just doesn't want to be discovered by somebody."

Now in his fourth week of incarceration, the man added another twist to the story recently by hinting he had business of some kind outside prison that he would need to attend to.

"He said there was a point at some time that he would need to get out of jail," Harris said. "That's the closest I can find of what he wants to do. And that makes no sense to me whatsoever."

PROVO -- A man who doesn't want anyone to know who he is has been sitting in the Utah County jail for three weeks. Police say he was arrested on minor charges, but they can't just let him out.

John Doe, as they have been forced to call him, was arrested for trespassing after he was spotted hanging around the parking garage of the Provo City offices, looking into cars. Police told him to leave three times, but he refused and was arrested July 1.

From that day since, he hasn't told anyone who he is, where he came from, or what he was doing in Provo.

Utah County Sheriff's Lt. Dennis Harris said they are baffled. They've told him he was arrested on minor misdemeanor charges and that if he tells them his name, he would probably be let out for time served. A judge did give him a $1,200 cash-only bail, but he hasn't come up with any cash, and it doesn't look like he's made any attempt to get the money. For now, he just sits in jail.

"There's a possibility maybe he's wanted in another state. Maybe he's on some registry or database where he failed to register," said Harris. "We've gone the gamut with this guy and he's just cool as can be. He just absolutely does not want us to know who he is."

Police did run his finger prints, which turned up nothing. Harris says the man acts as if it's his first time in jail. Police even offered to help him out and to look for a job if he would just tell them his name, but still nothing.

Harris also said they have had people not give them their name in the past, but they usually figure out who it is within a day or two.

But not this John Doe. He even told police he will want to get out some time -- he just didn't say when that time will be.

PROVO -- Police arrested an elderly man on July 1 for criminal trespass, but weeks later he still refuses to provide authorities with his name. Now, the Utah County Sheriff's Office hopes the public can help identify the man.

According to Sheriff's Lt. Dennis Harris, the man is about 71 years old and was booked into jail on three misdemeanor charges. He did not have any identification with him and will not tell authorities his name. A judge set his bail at $1,200, but he remains in jail.

"You hate to see somebody still stay in jail just because they're so stubborn," Harris said. "We don't want to see anybody in here longer than they should be."

Police have been referring to the man simply as "John Doe." He is described as a white male, about 6 feet 2 inches and weighing 175 pounds. He has blue eyes and gray hair.

Harris said that officials suspect he may be from out of state because he didn't seem aware of things commonly seen in Utah. Specifically, Harris said that at one point authorities learned that the man had not ever heard of DI, or Deseret Industries.

Harris said that occasionally people refuse to give police basic identification information, but that they usually break down after sitting for a few days in jail. In the case of John Doe, however, authorities haven't been able to learn anything.

"It leads you to believe they're hiding something," Harris said, "which may or may not be the case with this individual."

Anyone with information about the man is encouraged to call Lt. Scott Carter at (801) 851-4202.

Provo police are asking for help from the public in identifying a man who is currently being held in the Utah County Jail.

The 71-year-old man was arrested July 1 but refused to give his name or any other personal information to officers.

He is charged with interfering with an investigation, failure to give information to a police officer and criminal tresspass.

The man is currently booked under the name John Doe. He is 6'02", 175 pounds with grey hair and blue eyes.

Anyone with information about the man is asked to call the Utah County Sheriff's Office.

A 61-year-old Farmington man was dubbed “John Doe” by Utah police after he spent more than three weeks in jail without being identified, The Daily Times reported.

The Utah County Sheriff’s Office identified Philip Beavers after a family member called on Tuesday, The Daily Times said.

Provo, Utah police arrested Beavers on July 1, after he was found lurking around city vehicles in a garage under the police department, sheriff’s Lt. Dennis Harris said.

The sheriff’s office spent more than 100 hours trying to identify the man, who would not give officers his true identity, The Daily Times said.

Family members, who declined to be identified, told police that Beavers left Farmington around June 24. They indicated that Beavers lost his job and could not find work, according to the paper.

He remains jailed at the Utah County jail on a $1,200 bond, a jail spokeswoman said.

SALT LAKE CITY — A mystery man believed to be in his 70s who has been locked up in a Utah jail for more than three weeks, refusing to provide his name, was identified Tuesday as a missing New Mexico man, authorities said.

The graying, disheveled man with blue eyes and a scruffy face was booked into the Utah County Jail as “John Doe” on July 1 after being arrested for trespassing in the Provo Police Department parking garage, about 45 miles south of Salt Lake City.

Since then, investigators have been publicizing his mug shot and reaching out to the media and public to figure out who he is. About 100 tips had led nowhere. Authorities even considered the man might have been a missing district attorney from Pennsylvania, but later ruled that out.

Another Pennsylvania prosecutor on Tuesday confirmed that authorities have determined the man is Phillip T. Beavers of New Mexico.

Centre County District Attorney Stacy Parks Miller said in an email to The Associated Press that the man’s brother identified him. No other details were immediately available.

Miller’s office had been involved in looking into whether the mystery man was in fact former District Attorney Ray Gricar.

Gricar disappeared in 2005 about nine months before he planned to retire as the top prosecutor in the central Pennsylvania county that is home to Penn State University’s main campus in State College. He was declared legally dead Monday.

Utah County Sheriff’s Lt. Dennis Harris declined to immediately comment on the man’s identification.

“I think we know who this guy is now,” Harris said. “I’m feeling pretty comfortable.”

Beavers is being held on $1,200 cash bond for three misdemeanor charges of interfering with an investigation, failure to provide information to a police officer and criminal trespass.

He has been practically silent in jail, save for a few brief conversations with Harris and a deputy who have been trying to get him to talk. Authorities ran the man’s fingerprints through a state database but came up with nothing.

Authorities initially said they didn’t believe the man was from Utah or had been homeless long, if he was homeless at all. The man has just about a week’s worth of facial hair but did appear disheveled and dirty when he was arrested.

“We’ve explored everything from A to Z,” Harris said earlier, adding that they had not ruled out the possibility that the man might have been a registered sex offender somewhere or possibly wanted for a crime.

A John Doe prisoner in Utah is not a missing Pennsylvania district attorney declared dead on Monday.

Tipsters had alerted Utah police that the John Doe prisoner resembled missing Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar, who disappeared six years ago. But the mystery prisoner has since been identified as a New Mexico man who had lost his job, report the Associated Press, Reuters and the Farmington Daily Times. He is identified as Philip Beavers, though news reports differ on the spelling of his first name.

Other tipsters suggested the John Doe prisoner could be slain Kennedy assassin Lee Harvey Oswald; the parachuting plane hijacker D.B. Cooper, or Alcatraz escapee Frank Morris, according to Lt. Dennis Harris of the Utah County Sheriff’s Office, who spoke to the Farmington Daily Times. Beavers was identified by a family member.

The Albuquerque Journal is reporting that the Utah inmate I mentioned earlier has been identified, but sadly, it appears he is not the missing DA from Pennsylvania. John Doe's brother reportedly recognized him after the mug shot was released to the media, and identified him as one Phillip T. Beavers of New Mexico.

Few details are available at the moment, so we still don't know why Mr. Beavers was in Utah or why he has kept his identity a secret for three weeks. Although if my name was "Mr. Beavers," I might not be in a big hurry to reveal that, either.

The Utah sheriff's office where Mr. Beavers is being held would not immediately confirm the report, but an officer was quoted as saying he felt "pretty comfortable" with the identification. Maybe they will also feel comfortable now letting him out of jail, since he's been there three weeks already for what was basically a refusal to get out of a parking garage. No one has claimed he is mentally ill or dangerous, and I'm pretty sure you can't constitutionally be required to show a police officer your ID. So even if they can't solve this mystery, he's probably entitled to be on his way.

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Mystery prisoner has Utah jail authorities stumped

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